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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. This is the NSFW AI podcast. And look, let's just cut the corporate bullshit right now.

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Yeah, please.

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You know why you're here, right? And we know who you are. We're here for the gooners. Simple as that.

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That's right. Look, if you get easily scandalized by like a frank technical discussion of how these AI models learn to generate perfect tits or a hego faces or, you know, basically every damn specific weird fantasy known to humankind.

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Then you are absolutely in the wrong fucking feed.

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Seriously, hit stop now because today we're not tiptoeing around emerging technology. No, we are celebrating the technical triumph of pure, unadulterated horniness.

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Seriously. Forget the VC funding talk. Forget hypothetical regulations for a minute. We are diving into the fundamental, like structural truth of the current AI smut wars.

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Which is?

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2D beats 3D. Hands down. Anime style generation is just stomping all over photorealism.

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It really is.

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And we're going to break down why with Max irreverence, and let's be honest, clinical precision. Why does anime style have this massive, I mean, it feels almost insurmountable, doesn't it? This advantage in the AI generation game.

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Yeah, insurmountable is a good word for it. It's the anime advantage, right? And it is currently consuming everyone else's lunch. Oh, yeah. And their dinner, and probably raiding the fridge for leftovers, too. I mean, look at the Fatorio models. They're still struggling with basic stuff like lighting consistency, the eternal nightmare of rendering hands with the right number of fingers. It can't

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be started on the fingers.

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Right. And then there's the constant threat, the looming shadow of a celebrity deepfake lawsuit landing on your ass.

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Meanwhile.

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Meanwhile, the anime generators are just chilling. They're out there in the horny multiverse spinning up ridiculously complex, hyper-specific kinks just by typing in a few words. It's insane.

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It's way more than just like a style preference. It's a deep technical thing. Yeah. And a legal home field advantage

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too. Definitely legal. I

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mean, Think about it. Hentai historically always found a way when real porn hit censorship walls, right? It was the release valve for desire.

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Exactly.

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And AI just poured gasoline on that fire. It amplified that whole historical trend into this kind of technological singularity we're seeing now.

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So the real question isn't if anime-style AI is winning this race. That's obvious.

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Yeah, the race is over.

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The question is why it has such superiority low friction processing power when it comes to tapping into the neural networks of collective human horniness. Why is it so damn good at it?

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OK, let's unpack that, because to really get why it's so dominant now, you've got to look back, right? You have to ground it in the history of the medium itself.

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Absolutely. The last 50 years basically wrote the playbook for the training data these models used in the last, what, three years?

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Right. So act one, the historical and technical baseline. Where did this all start?

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Well, look at the history of illustrated erotica, specifically hentai. It was always the outlet. wasn't it?

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Yeah.

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Decades ago when censorship was way harsher, when getting physical porn was illegal or super restricted or just plain difficult and awkward.

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What did people turn to time and time again?

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Drawings, fantasy, cartoons. It was the essential release valve, no question. And we're talking like a solid five decades of this stuff becoming normalized, culturally speaking. It evolved.

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Yeah, this wasn't cooked up on some image board last year.

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Hell no. You had pioneers, guys like Osamu Tezuka drawing stuff that, well, you could generously call it horny furries back then. And sexually ambiguous characters way before mainstream culture even really got anime as a genre, let alone a huge market force.

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And this long history is not just about culture. Critically, like you said, it's data history.

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Exactly. That's the crucial pivot point when we talk about AI training. This isn't just about some old dudes drawing cartoon tits in the 70s.

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Although let's appreciate that for a moment.

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We appreciate it. But technically, it's about establishing a standardized accepted, and crucially, highly consistent visual language for fantasy. A language that goes beyond just one artist's style. And

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when the whole thing moved from print doujinshi, the self-published manga, into the digital world, did that consistency break down?

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No way. It actually intensified digital distribution, image boards like Danburu, community archiving, all that stuff enforced a visual consensus.

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Okay, explain that more. How did it enforce it?

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Well, unlike photorealism, which is inherently messy right you've got different lighting different cameras unique human bodies that vary wildly yeah the language of hentai relies on these fixed anatomical standards okay they're exaggerated impossible sometimes but they're standard distinct line work predictable ways of coloring to

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create some more uniform base

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precisely and if we get hyper technical which let's face it we have to because we're tech degenerates

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speak for yourself yeah fair

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it boils down to the data difference why was anime just built for deep learning in a way for a real smut fundamentally wasn't.

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Because the data sets were cleaner, more organized.

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Inherently clean, highly tagged, and standardized right from the get-go. Think about what a machine learning model needs to learn what a perfect image is, especially a perfect sexual image.

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Repetition, clarity. Labels. Bingo. Repetition, clarity, and unambiguous labels. This is super important when we talk about the CLIP training model that sits underneath these generators. CLIP, you know, the thing that links language descriptions to visual stuff.

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Right, text to image depends on that link being strong.

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Exactly. It needs to associate text descriptions, like tags, with the actual visual information in the image.

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Okay, but hold on. How does the cleanliness of the data specifically help CLIP learn better? Couldn't you just tag a real photo of someone doing something just as well as a cartoon?

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Ah, but no, absolutely not. Think about it. The pictorial data set is inherently noisy, super noisy, meaning a picture-tagged cowgirl pose, for instance. In the real world, that photo might be taken in bad lighting. The person might have shadows obscuring things, messy hair flying around, confusing crap in the background, or just, you know, normal human variation in body shape.

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Right. All that variation. The visual vector, what the AI model actually sees is clutter as hell. It's messy. Now compare that to 2D, an image tagged cowgirl in a good hentai data set.

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Consistent lines, bold art.

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Exactly. Consistent, bold line art, fixed color palettes, usually minimal. background clutter and the anatomical representation, even if it's physically impossible.

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It's standardized impossibility.

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Yes. Standardized impossibility. I love that. So the visual concept is pure. The signal is strong. The noise is low.

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So mapping the tag cowgirl to the image data is way easier for the AI in the 2D space. The target is clearer.

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Much, much clearer. The visual vector for cowgirl in that 2D latent space, the AI's internal map of concepts is like a tight, dense easily defined cluster of points. It's low noise, high signal data.

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Makes sense.

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And when you look at the source material available for training these 2D models, you've got entire communities, man. Communities built around cataloging this stuff. It's almost like a religious devotion.

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Like Dan Baru.

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Exactly like Dan Baru. Every character, every pose, every specific outfit, every single specific sexual act. It's been drawn thousands upon thousands of times in a relatively consistent visual style and tagged meticulously.

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It's like having a hyper- specific technical manual where every diagram is perfectly labeled and drawn in the exact same engineering style.

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Yeah, that's a great analogy. So in these AI smart wars, 2D just had vastly superior pre-sorted starter packs for training models compared to photorealism.

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Whereas photorealism had to start with.

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The Internet's junk drawer, basically. Yeah. Messy, low light, often terrible quality amateur pics, maybe some highly varied copyrighted commercial shots that need tons of preprocessing just to clean up the noise before or the AI can even start learning.

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So the foundation was just stronger for anime from day one.

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The cleanliness and consistency of that data is everything. Anime models basically started with an operational IQ of like 150 because their training material was already sorted, labeled, and visually standardized by millions of dedicated horny humans over 20 plus years.

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While photorealism was still figuring out how fingers work.

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Pretty much. Photorealism had to wade through the digital equivalent of random, poorly lit cell phone snaps. before it could even learn to consistently render a human hand with five fingers, let alone complex scenes.

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OK, so that stronger foundation, that initial data advantage, translates directly into better performance now.

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Absolutely. Operational efficiency. Which brings us nicely into act two.

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The three pillars of the anime advantage, what are they?

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Control, legal immunity, and pure aesthetic satisfaction.

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Let's dig into pillar one then. Prompt control. You mentioned Dan Buru.

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Ah, Dan Buru. If clean, standardized data is the bedrock, then Danburu tags are the holy scripture for prompt wizards. This system, it unlocks what we can only call god mode control over the generation process.

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Okay, god mode sounds promising. But for listeners who maybe aren't deep in the anime image board trenches, what is Danburu and why are its tags so powerful?

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Right, good question. Danburu is essentially a massive searchable archive of anime-style images. But the key isn't just the images, it's the community. This community has spent years years, literally years, meticulously annotating everything in the archive. Everything. Every character, hair color, eye color, clothing item, pose, background element, sexual act, kink, fetish, you name it, it probably has a tag. We're talking millions upon millions of precise community vetted data points, tags upon tags upon tags.

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It's like the Linnaean system for classifying horniness.

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Exactly. It is the ultimate crowdsourced taxonomy of human and, let's be honest, non human desire. And because the big AI models like stable diffusion and especially the custom hentai models built on top of that.

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Like waifu diffusion or novel AI.

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Yeah, exactly those. They were trained directly on images associated with these Danborough tag. So the model doesn't just guess what you mean by a tag. It understands the prompt language with surgical precision.

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So when you type in a prompt like a Higa.

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The model isn't just vaguely guessing based on a few reference pics it found somewhere. No, it's accessing a clearly defined pre-learned aesthetic standard for what that specific facial expression must look like, based on thousands of tagged examples.

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And for more complex stuff, like combining multiple tags.

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Even better. Say you request a complex scene. Cowgirl shot, thigh highs, dynamic posing, on top, looking at viewer. The model knows exactly what body position cowgirl shot implies, what thigh highs look like, what dynamic posing means in this context, the implied camera angle on top, and the eye contact of looking at viewer.

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And it fuses all those concepts.

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It fuses those visual vectors those concepts almost instantly and usually pretty coherently because it learned them from consistently tagged examples. The control is just incredible.

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Okay, that sounds powerful. But you also mentioned Loras. How do they fit in?

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Ah, yes. Loras. Low-rank adaptation. This is where the technical efficiency gets dialed up to 11, especially for anime.

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Explain Loras like I'm 5, but a very degenerate 5.

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Okay, haha. So imagine your big AI model, like Stable Diffusion, is a giant suit super smart brain that knows how to draw generally. Allora is like a tiny specialized microchip you can plug into that brain. This microchip doesn't retrain the whole damn brain, which takes ages and tons of power. Instead, it just subtly tweaks the output in a very specific way. It allows users to inject a particular style or specific character or even a really niche kink super quickly and easily.

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Got it. Tiny plugin for specific results.

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Yeah.

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But wait, you said this is a specific anime advantage. Can't tutorial models use They

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absolutely can, and they do. But here's the kicker. Their effectiveness is dramatically lower. Remember how we talked about the anime latent space being clean and consistent?

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Yeah, the tight cluster of concepts, low noise.

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Right. Because that space is so pure, an anime Laura for, say, a specific blue-haired waifu only needs to learn a few key defining visual features to work perfectly. The main model already handles the basic anatomy, the style, the posing. The Laura just adds that final layer of character-specific detail.

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Ah, so the Laura has less heavy lifting to do.

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Precisely. You can train a high-quality anime character, Laura, with relatively little data and get incredibly consistent results across hundreds of images doing all sorts of complex, specific activities. Whereas for photorealism, because the base data is noisy and human likeness has infinite subtle variations, Laura needs way more training data to capture a specific person accurately. And even then, it often clashes with the base model's inherent weaknesses, like rendering hands, or dealing with weird lighting artifacts.

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But creating a good photoreal Laura for a specific person is much harder and less reliable.

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Massively harder. For photorealism, every new person you want to generate realistically requires a significant effort to train a good Laura. For anime, you just download a tiny file for a new waifu, plug it in, and boom, consistent results. It's night and day.

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Which means the anime community can iterate way faster on niche stuff.

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Exactly. They can build these tiny specialized models for extremely specific kinks, Share them easily through sites like Civitai and deploy them instantly. It's like this self-perpetuating engine of prompt efficiency and kink exploration.

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And this ability to handle complexity. That's key,

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right? Absolutely key. You try pushing photorial generators towards really complex or let's be blunt, weird shit.

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Our specialty.

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Indeed. You push photorial models there and they just choke. They produce artifacts. They give you those nightmare fuel melted fingers, objects floating in space, bodies merging in in ways that defy geometry.

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Because the training data for that weird shit is rare and inconsistent in real-life photos.

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Exactly. The visual vectors for, say, human transforming into octopus while riding a unicycle are understandably scattered and weak in the photorial data set.

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But the anime models?

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They thrive on weird shit. They were practically trained on it. Because the source material is illustration, it's already full of codified, impossible anatomy and absurd, highly detailed scenarios.

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So you can generate that giantess Lactation Cowgirl Futa Orgy.

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You can generate Giantess Lactation Cowgirl Futa Orgy, and there's our technical example for the day, folks, demonstrating the sheer power of the tag system. You can generate that without necessarily producing the classic 11-fingered Cthulhu monster artifacts that instantly kill the mood.

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Because the model just combines known tagged elements.

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It combines defined, pre-validated artistic elements. It's like Legos for Lust, built from standardized, reliable bricks. The The complexity of the prompt doesn't degrade the output quality nearly as much.

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The level of granular, hyper-specific control is the goal.

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It allows the user to achieve their exact desire, which is the ultimate revolutionary promise of any generative tool, right? You don't have to settle for close enough. You get exactly the cartoon degeneracy you specifically asked for.

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And that precision, that control, must be incredibly addictive.

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Oh, it is. It keeps users generating, refining prompts, creating and sharing new lores. It constantly feeds this cycle of highly specific, high-quality output. It's a virtuous cycle of smut generation.

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Okay, so if prompt control is the technical hammer, the next pillar is the legal shield. This feels huge.

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It is huge. Pillar two, legal breathing room, the fictional shield.

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Let's start with the flip side, the photoreal headache.

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Right. The photoreal headache isn't really a technical problem anymore, not primarily. It's a compliance disaster waiting to happen. If you're generating realistic images, you have immediately slam face-first into some serious legal constraints, laws designed to protect real people.

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We're talking deep fake bans.

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Global deep fake bans, yeah. The need for documented consent if you're using someone's likeness, which is basically impossible for generated porn, and the constant looming threat of celebrity likeness lawsuits. Someone famous sees something that looks too much like them. Bam. Lawsuit.

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And the platforms themselves are building filters, right? Trying to police this.

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They have to. The legal landscape is actively, I'd say rightly, hostile to realistic AI porn that could exploit non-consensual likenesses. So you get these increasingly sophisticated filters. Thankfully, they are getting better. They basically say, whoa, hold up. Sorry, your image looks way too close to the specific famous person or maybe even just a specific real person. We can't generate that or you can't upload it here.

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So realistic AI creators are constantly walking on eggshells.

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Totally. Worried about facial recognition tech, digital watermarking, forensic analysis, flagging their output, it's a minefield.

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And this is where anime just strolls through the minefield whistling?

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Pretty much. This is where the 2D style becomes the ultimate bulletproof legal shield. Because the content is clearly fictional. It's illustrated. It's stylized. It's often anatomically absurd. It immediately and fundamentally distances itself from any actual specific human subject.

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No identifiable real victim in the way deepfakes have victims.

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Exactly. In the traditional sense of deepfakes, fake harms, there's no real person being directly impersonated or defamed by having their face swapped onto something. And crucially, no celebrity likeness issues because the output isn't a photorealistic copy. It's an artistic rendering based on a stylistic character definition.

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It's drawing inspiration, not copying pixels.

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Right. And that distinction is absolutely critical because current laws, especially in big places like the US and the UK, are specifically designed to hammer realistic AI points that exploits non-consensual likenesses. They target deepfakes.

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And a deepfake is defined by its realism, its ability to deceive.

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Generally, yes. Its ability to mimic reality convincingly is key to the legal definition and the harm model. And guess what completely sidesteps that whole definition? Anime. Anime. It's like this giant loophole shaped like a cat girl. It's the visual aesthetic that immediately screams, this is not real life, officer. Look, giant eyes, pink hair. This is obviously a drawing.

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It defeats the detection algorithms too, doesn't it?

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Oh, completely. Think about how those deep fake detection algorithms work. You feed them an image of, say, a celebrity's face pasted onto a pornographic body. The algorithm looks for subtle inconsistencies, pixel artifacts, lighting mismatches, geometric anomalies, similarity to known source photos.

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Standard forensic stuff.

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Yeah. But the moment you introduce extreme stylization, bold outlines, massive inhuman eyes, impossible hair colors, zero skin pores, those algorithms just fall apart. They have no realistic reference point. The visual data is too far removed from reality for them to make a comparison.

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So it's not just a philosophical shield, it's fictional. It's a practical, technical barrier against automated legal enforcement.

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Exactly. The government or platforms can't easily filter or ban something they can't consistently detect. And stylized 2D art is practically designed to defy realistic detection methods.

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Okay, and then there's the global context. You mentioned Japan.

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Ah, yes, Japan, which is basically pouring industrial-grade gas gasoline on this already raging bonfire of anime AI generation. Well, Japan's traditionally much more relaxed approach to regulating AI development, combined with a deep, longstanding cultural acceptance, even celebration of this specific type of fantasy content.

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Hentai is mainstream culture there, to a degree.

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To a significant degree. It means that the creation and proliferation of anime-style data sets, the tools, and especially those crucial character lore as we talked about, they face far fewer internal regulatory hurdles within Japan compared to, say, the U.S. or Europe trying to generate realistic content.

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So Japan acts as a kind of safe harbor, a development hub.

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It's the undisputed, essentially government-sanctioned AI content creation safe haven for this style. If the West is constantly trying to regulate realistic faces out of existence due to deepfake fears, Japan is effectively saying, go nuts, draw better tentacles. Oh, and here's a massive culturally acceptable data set to train on.

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That creates a huge imbalance.

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Massive asymmetry. It ensures a continuous, high-quality, legally low-risk flow of new tools, techniques, and training data specifically for the anime style, feeding the global ecosystem. It's structurally unstoppable right now.

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Because the development can happen more freely there.

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Exactly. Faster iteration, fewer worries about self-censorship or getting sued into oblivion, and a much larger, readily available resource pool for the communities building these advanced models.

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So if you're running a drowning in legal fees and filter development.

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You're constantly looking over your shoulder. But if you're running an anime model, your biggest worry is probably just figuring out what incredibly complex degenerate prompt you want to try and master next.

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Okay, that covers the legal immunity. What's the third pillar?

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Pillar three, stylistic perks or why anime just avoids the creepy shit. Specifically, no uncanny valley.

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Ah, the uncanny valley. The graveyard of realistic CGI hopes and dreams.

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And AI just generation nightmares. Legal safety is vital, yeah. But let's talk about pure aesthetic satisfaction. Why does anime feel better to generate often?

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Beyond the control and legality.

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Yeah. Forget the law for a second. The 2D style delivers fundamental features that realism can basically never achieve without just looking wrong or, frankly, inducing nausea. Impossible curves, my friend. We're talking physically impossible, gravity-defying, hyper-sexualized anatomy, boobs bigger than torsos, waists that make zero skeletal Stuff that would literally make a human spine snap like a twig in real life.

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Realism can't handle that level of exaggeration without looking grotesque.

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Exactly. It instantly looks like a medical horror show or like bad Photoshop. Anime, however, embraces fantasy physics as a core part of its aesthetic. It's expected. It's part of the appeal.

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And other stylistic things realism struggles with.

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Oh, yeah. Think about the aesthetic of like glowing cum or narrative conveniences like magical girl transformations happening during sex, or hyper-detailed body mods like extra limbs or weird textures that are only palatable and non-repulsive because they're presented through the non-threatening filter of a drawing. Realism makes that stuff horrific.

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It's interesting you mention physics. Sometimes the success in 2D AI is making the impossible look. Plausibly impossible.

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Yes. That's a great way to put it. From a technical breakthrough perspective, in 2D, a huge win isn't just generating a clear image. It's when the physics simulation makes those giant cartoon tits bounce realistically according to the character's impossible movements.

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We're literally getting off on the math succeeding.

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We're celebrating the triumph of the algorithm over mundane Newtonian gravity. The challenge isn't replicating reality, it's making the unreal look internally consistent according to its own fantasy rules.

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Okay, but devil's advocate here. Aren't companies like MidJourney making huge leaps in photorealism? Fingers are getting better, lighting is improving. Is this gap really insurmountable forever or is 2D just like cheaper and easier today?

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That's a fair challenge. Mid-journey is getting way better, no doubt. But I still think the gap remains fundamentally insurmountable or at least incredibly difficult and expensive to close because of the uncanny valley.

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Explain the valley in this context.

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The uncanny valley is that zone where something looks almost perfectly human, but something is just off. And that arcness triggers a deep-seated revulsion in our brains. It's the place where realistic AI goes to die.

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It's that constant agonizing quality check you have to do with tutorial output.

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Exactly. That moment where your brain flags it. Wait, did the AI just give her 11 toes or is her ear kind of melting into her hair? Or why does her skin have the texture of cheap plastic? It shatters the immersion instantly. It makes it creepy.

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Whereas with stylized 2D.

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You just don't have that problem. The visual language already accepts distortion. Stylization is the quality standard. We accept huge eyes, impossible proportions. Maybe the nose is just too dark. That's part of the art form. So

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if an anime character has a ridiculously tiny nose.

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That's just the style. It's a design choice. It doesn't break immersion. But if a realistic AI image gives someone a distorted nose, you hit delete immediately because it looks like a failed plastic surgery experiment. The artistic intent, the accepted stylization shields the flaws.

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So the barrier to getting a satisfying result is much lower in 2D.

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Dramatically lower. You can iterate faster. You get high satisfaction results with less computational horsepower, fewer You are failed generations wasting your time and credits. It means more time actually generating your complex fetishes and less time trying to fix melt monsters.

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And this really comes into play with more extreme transformations or anatomy, right? FUTA, monsters, etc.

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Oh, absolutely. That's where photorealism just completely shits the bed. Try generating a convincing Futanori character or someone with tentacles using a purely photoreal model. It struggles immensely.

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Why? Not enough real-world training data.

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Pretty much. It's training data is anchored in mundane reality. It doesn't have good examples of how to plausibly fuse those concepts onto a human form without it looking like a horrifying biological accident. The anime model, though,

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has seen thousands of tagged examples.

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Thousands of tagged examples of seamless fusion, tentacles coming out of places tentacles shouldn't, perfectly drawn Fuda anatomy. The visual vectors for Tentacle and Anime Girl are already consistently merged and understood in its latent space because the illustrators figured it out decades ago.

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So it's just fundamentally a superior delivery system for generated lust because it doesn't have to constantly fight our expectation of reality.

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Exactly. It only has to fight the expectation of stylistic consistency and the Dan Mabrou tags and community curation have already given it the instruction manual for that. It's playing on easy mode, legally and aesthetically.

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Okay, that makes a powerful case. So Act 3, what are the bigger implications of all this? Where does this lead?

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Right, let's synthesize the so what. What is this anime advantage actually mean? Well, fundamentally, anime generation serves as the ultimate unrestrained safe kink lab.

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Safe kink lab? I like it.

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It offers infinite variety thanks to the prompt to control and lore as. It offers structural immunity from most of those scary likeness lawsuits. It offers high fidelity within its own style. And it has relatively low computational cost compared to chasing perfect photorealism. It's

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the perfect storm.

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It really is. And this combination of safety, variety, and experience makes anime the prime gateway drug for users entering the whole generated adult content space.

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How so? Think

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about it. If you're curious about some new, maybe really specific fetish, are you going to risk trying to generate a photorealistic deep fic that could, theoretically, get you into legal trouble down the line?

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Hell no.

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Or are you going to fire up your favorite anime generator, type in a ridiculously specific complex tag string, safe in the knowledge that the output is just a You're

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going to pick the cartoon every time. It's zero risk.

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Exactly. It democratizes the exploration, consumption, and even the creation of extremely niche, personalized fetishes on a scale never seen before.

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Yeah, before AI, if you wanted something super specific.

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You had to find a human artist who specialized in that niche, commission them, pay them probably quite a bit, wait, and then just hope they perfectly understood your weird vision. Now. Now. You just need a good prompt, a Dan Baru-trained model, maybe download a nichelorad as someone else already made, boom, instant gratification. It's the democratization of degeneracy powered by animate data. MARK

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MIRCHANDANI- And looking at the current state of play, the scoreboard, it's still brutal for photorealism, isn't

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it? MELANIE WARRICK- It really is. Photorial smut is playing this perpetual game of catch up. They're constantly fighting those quality issues, the hands, the eyes, the textures. They're navigating legal compliance nightmares. They're battling the sheer computational difficulty and cost of rendering photorealism consistently without artifacts. They're basically running uphill into the wind carrying a giant bag of legal textbooks.

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While anime.

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Anime already owns the horny multiverse. They're not waiting for some magical new foundational algorithm or for laws to change. They're just refining the existing tools, the loras, the embeddings, the hyper networks into weapons grade fantasy generators, building on that solid foundation.

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It's kind of wild when you step back and think about it. We as a species are actively teaching machines that the perfect fantasy The most desirable generated output is impossible and drawn, not real.

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It's a fascinating feedback loop, and it raises this huge, maybe slightly disturbing question we need to grapple with as this horny singularity accelerates. What does it actually mean for human desire long-term when the most satisfying, the most customizable, the easiest to access, and frankly, often the hottest AI porn available is unapologetically cartoon, not realistic?

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Does it change what we find attractive, even outside of AI.

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It might. It fundamentally changes what we perceive as desirable in a generated context, at the very least. We are actively choosing stylistic perfection and absolute prompt control over the messy, legally fraught, and often aesthetically disappointing chase for fake realism.

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We're training ourselves, maybe even our collective unconscious via the AI, to prefer the generated fantasy, the hyper-defined cartoon ideal.

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Because it delivers on its promise with near-zero friction. The machine has learned, through our prompts and preferences, that the key to arousal isn't perfectly mimicking reality. It's perfecting unreality, according to established fantasy tropes.

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It's the ultimate self-perpetuating feedback loop you mentioned.

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Totally. Users demand more specific, complex kinks. The community responds by tagging more images, training more specialized anime data and lores. The models get smarter at delivering those specific niches. The output gets exponentially hotter and more specific. It's literally self-perpetuating. Self-improvement driven by collective lust.

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Okay, so we've laid out the why. The tech, the data, the legal shield, the aesthetics. Now we need to turn it back to the listeners.

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Yes. We want to hear from you, the gooners out there who are actually driving this technical revolution with every prompt you write, every loray you train or download.

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We want you to think about the bleeding edge, the outer limits of what this anime advantage enables.

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This is the final challenge we're issuing today. We want you to really consider, and hey, maybe share somewhere, what you think is the hottest most technically absurd, the most out there anime only kink that realism could never deliver.

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What's the thing that pushes it past physics, past biology, maybe even past conventional good taste?

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Into that glorious realm of pure generated degeneracy that only a standardized illustrated data set processed by a horny AI could possibly understand and render effectively.

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What's the fantasy that's only truly satisfying because you know it's a cartoon? Because realism would just ruin it.

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That's the edge of the frontier. That's what drives the next generation of these models. What happens when the only thing the AI is trying to perfectly replicate is the impossible standards set by 50 years of illustrative fantasy?

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It's a fascinating, kind of ridiculous, but undeniably technologically advanced cultural shift happening right under our noses.

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All powered by the simple, glorious human desire to see cartoons do unspeakable things. Better, faster, and more specifically than any human could ever pretend to.

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And hey, we'll keep documenting We'll keep laughing about the math behind the magic.

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And we'll keep explaining the deep learning that fuels the depravity. Any final provocative thought for the road?

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Hmm. Okay, yeah. Photoreal AI porn. Maybe it'll win an Oscar someday for its slow, painful, agonizing climb out of the uncanny valley. Maybe.

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But anime. Anime already won the cum wars.

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Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks for diving deep with us today, gooners.

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Yeah, catch you on the next one. Keep prompting.